Excellent piece overall but re the reference to "foreign, multi-million dollar efforts to oust U.S. congressmen," the money and votes to oust those members of Congress were not "foreign" but came from *Americans* who were rightfully disgusted by the performance of those lawmakers. If you want to see "foreign" efforts have a careful look at who is behind the anti-Israel campaign on American campuses.
Thank you Elliott for sharing your experience. I am in agreement with Julius. Having witnessed fighting and unrest for 50+ years. I have asked myself the question many times, "How can people keep hating, and fighting another people." After posing this question to my Muslim friend in Malaysia, he answered saying when one people attacks another people, if they can not attack back, they wait. I asked they wait for what? He said, they wait until they are able to return an attack on the attackers. I asked, what if that takes 100 years, he said they will wait 100 years. I told him when they return the attack, it is not even the same people that attacked in the first place. Then it was all too clear. I told him you would have to teach your children to hate those other people, you would always have to perpetuate a hatred to the attacking people for generations. There is no forgiveness. there is no teaching of love and acceptance of all people. There will never be peace if you are teaching hatred, creating secret plans of hatred toward another people. Children are not born with hatred, they are taught hatred. There will only be peace when all people will seek forgiveness, acceptance, care for and love to all people. Allowing them freedom to live and pursue happiness in the manner they choose with the foundation of respect of life and love to everyone. So far, may be idealistic, that is the only solution, my heart could come up with.
"How can people keep hating, and fighting another people."?
read the koran, and what it says about "another people"
(islamqadotinfo)
"The Quran is the word of Allah, may He be Exalted, and is not created . What is meant by that is that Allah, may He be exalted, spoke the words of the Quran, which Jibril (peace be upon him) heard from Him, and brought down to the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), and conveyed it to him.
All of the attributes of Allah, may He be Exalted, are uncreated; they are eternal, with no beginning. The words of Allah are among these attributes, and that includes the Quran. Therefore, the scholars said that the Quran is not created, because it is the words of Allah , and that is one of His attributes. "
This conflict has been going on since Isaac and Ishmael 3000 years ago. The only way it will be solved is when Jesus comes back again. A two state solution will mean the end of Israel.
Was this event ok'ed by the Administration? If so, the administrator needs to be fired for antisemitic rethoric and this speaker terminated as a student or teacher. We cannot allow the preaching of hatred and killing for a religion nor its practioners. That is illegal under our constitutional laws.
As Oscar Hammerstein II famously wrote (76 years ago,in 1949) the words of that most beautiful song for Lieutenant Cable to sing to Liat: "You've got to be carefully taught..."
My musical comedy debut was in a 1959 (Deep South segregated, white) high school production of South Pacific and that song still brings tears to these old eyes.
While the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has commanded the majority of headlines, due to its highly kinetic nature, there is another, far more important, issue that the West must face with regard to the Middle East. I refer, here, to the spread of Islam throughout Christendom.
The statistics on immigrant rapes of Anglo-Saxon children in the British Isles, for example, is far more concerning than the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. And, so is the response, or lack thereof, of the police in Ireland and England. The steady accumulation of rape statistics does not capture the world's attention in the same way that the shelling of Gaza has done, and that makes this threat all-the-more dangerous.
King Charles doesn't help matters by emphasizing multiculturalism and appeasement of Muslim rapists. A King should protect his people, first and foremost, not expose them to unrestrained barbarism in their own land. A King should also ensure the territorial integrity of his realm, not cede islands of "no-go zones" to barbaric immigrants.
Closer to home, the US States of Michigan and Minnesota also need work in this regard.
The irony of western female support for Islamism. Islamists are more conservative than most far-right Americans, especially on women's rights.
What do you think is happening in the "no-go zones" of Great Britain, where Islamists rule the streets?
Those no-go zones are breeding pens for Islamists, where young girls are turned into mothers before they finish high school. They have no chance at college or graduate school, let alone a modern career in anything other than motherhood.
The article reads like a 12 year old suburban whiteboy thinking they're doing undercover work. Maybe if the author spent less time rehearsing for their "gotcha" moment in Sever Hall and more time engaging with primary sources, they’d come across as someone who actually wants to contribute meaningfully to a critical conversation rather than bask in their own misplaced sense of superiority. Do better. Stop larping as disadvantaged.
This commentary, like so many pieces published by Salient, leaves me wondering "what's the point?" Is the point to look down your nose at all these retched and misguided souls who don't share your perspective? Maybe I am daft, but I don't think it would hurt of you actually wrote into these articles what you think should be done instead of (some crazy "liberal" fill in the blank is terrible). Complaining without suggesting solutions is a bit like whining. Personally, having witnessed this unchanging conflict for over 50 years, I am ready for there to be a solution. Surely the brilliant minds at Salient have something better to offer than pooh-poohing others for trying to do something.
After hopefully Israel wins this war which will involve some way of neutralizing Iran perhaps via regime change, the only way in the long term for there to be peace is for Muslims to stop teaching their children to hate and to kill non Muslims especially Jews. Moderate religious Muslims have to be encouraged to teach and practice an Islam without the hatred.
there are no moderate muslims, they are waiting until they are stronger and a larger segment of the population. The struggle to make islam supreme is the core of islam.
Our best hope, I think, is that Great Britain is ahead of us in the self-destructive population race that occurs when Muslims immigrate to one's nation.
Perhaps witnessing the upcoming conversion of the United Kingdom into the Islamic Kingdom of Great Britain will wake America up before it is too late!
Excellent piece overall but re the reference to "foreign, multi-million dollar efforts to oust U.S. congressmen," the money and votes to oust those members of Congress were not "foreign" but came from *Americans* who were rightfully disgusted by the performance of those lawmakers. If you want to see "foreign" efforts have a careful look at who is behind the anti-Israel campaign on American campuses.
Thank you Elliott for sharing your experience. I am in agreement with Julius. Having witnessed fighting and unrest for 50+ years. I have asked myself the question many times, "How can people keep hating, and fighting another people." After posing this question to my Muslim friend in Malaysia, he answered saying when one people attacks another people, if they can not attack back, they wait. I asked they wait for what? He said, they wait until they are able to return an attack on the attackers. I asked, what if that takes 100 years, he said they will wait 100 years. I told him when they return the attack, it is not even the same people that attacked in the first place. Then it was all too clear. I told him you would have to teach your children to hate those other people, you would always have to perpetuate a hatred to the attacking people for generations. There is no forgiveness. there is no teaching of love and acceptance of all people. There will never be peace if you are teaching hatred, creating secret plans of hatred toward another people. Children are not born with hatred, they are taught hatred. There will only be peace when all people will seek forgiveness, acceptance, care for and love to all people. Allowing them freedom to live and pursue happiness in the manner they choose with the foundation of respect of life and love to everyone. So far, may be idealistic, that is the only solution, my heart could come up with.
regarding:
"How can people keep hating, and fighting another people."?
read the koran, and what it says about "another people"
(islamqadotinfo)
"The Quran is the word of Allah, may He be Exalted, and is not created . What is meant by that is that Allah, may He be exalted, spoke the words of the Quran, which Jibril (peace be upon him) heard from Him, and brought down to the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), and conveyed it to him.
All of the attributes of Allah, may He be Exalted, are uncreated; they are eternal, with no beginning. The words of Allah are among these attributes, and that includes the Quran. Therefore, the scholars said that the Quran is not created, because it is the words of Allah , and that is one of His attributes. "
Listen,
This conflict has been going on since Isaac and Ishmael 3000 years ago. The only way it will be solved is when Jesus comes back again. A two state solution will mean the end of Israel.
Was this event ok'ed by the Administration? If so, the administrator needs to be fired for antisemitic rethoric and this speaker terminated as a student or teacher. We cannot allow the preaching of hatred and killing for a religion nor its practioners. That is illegal under our constitutional laws.
As Oscar Hammerstein II famously wrote (76 years ago,in 1949) the words of that most beautiful song for Lieutenant Cable to sing to Liat: "You've got to be carefully taught..."
My musical comedy debut was in a 1959 (Deep South segregated, white) high school production of South Pacific and that song still brings tears to these old eyes.
Thank G-D for my non-racist parents.
While the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has commanded the majority of headlines, due to its highly kinetic nature, there is another, far more important, issue that the West must face with regard to the Middle East. I refer, here, to the spread of Islam throughout Christendom.
The statistics on immigrant rapes of Anglo-Saxon children in the British Isles, for example, is far more concerning than the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. And, so is the response, or lack thereof, of the police in Ireland and England. The steady accumulation of rape statistics does not capture the world's attention in the same way that the shelling of Gaza has done, and that makes this threat all-the-more dangerous.
King Charles doesn't help matters by emphasizing multiculturalism and appeasement of Muslim rapists. A King should protect his people, first and foremost, not expose them to unrestrained barbarism in their own land. A King should also ensure the territorial integrity of his realm, not cede islands of "no-go zones" to barbaric immigrants.
Closer to home, the US States of Michigan and Minnesota also need work in this regard.
The irony of western female support for Islamism. Islamists are more conservative than most far-right Americans, especially on women's rights.
What do you think is happening in the "no-go zones" of Great Britain, where Islamists rule the streets?
Those no-go zones are breeding pens for Islamists, where young girls are turned into mothers before they finish high school. They have no chance at college or graduate school, let alone a modern career in anything other than motherhood.
Thanks for that report.
I feel so much better knowing that liberal logic and good manners are alive and well at Harvard!
Hilarious!
The article reads like a 12 year old suburban whiteboy thinking they're doing undercover work. Maybe if the author spent less time rehearsing for their "gotcha" moment in Sever Hall and more time engaging with primary sources, they’d come across as someone who actually wants to contribute meaningfully to a critical conversation rather than bask in their own misplaced sense of superiority. Do better. Stop larping as disadvantaged.
This commentary, like so many pieces published by Salient, leaves me wondering "what's the point?" Is the point to look down your nose at all these retched and misguided souls who don't share your perspective? Maybe I am daft, but I don't think it would hurt of you actually wrote into these articles what you think should be done instead of (some crazy "liberal" fill in the blank is terrible). Complaining without suggesting solutions is a bit like whining. Personally, having witnessed this unchanging conflict for over 50 years, I am ready for there to be a solution. Surely the brilliant minds at Salient have something better to offer than pooh-poohing others for trying to do something.
After hopefully Israel wins this war which will involve some way of neutralizing Iran perhaps via regime change, the only way in the long term for there to be peace is for Muslims to stop teaching their children to hate and to kill non Muslims especially Jews. Moderate religious Muslims have to be encouraged to teach and practice an Islam without the hatred.
Have you read the Koran? Islamonline? Islamweb? any islamic site?.
and this gem,
islaam.com at the wayback machine
there are no moderate muslims, they are waiting until they are stronger and a larger segment of the population. The struggle to make islam supreme is the core of islam.
Our best hope, I think, is that Great Britain is ahead of us in the self-destructive population race that occurs when Muslims immigrate to one's nation.
Perhaps witnessing the upcoming conversion of the United Kingdom into the Islamic Kingdom of Great Britain will wake America up before it is too late!
“Trying to do something.” What a lovely way of describing the efforts of pogromists.
Yeah. I think, there is plenty of that to go around from all sides. Not sure how much value the holier-than-thou approach adds.
I took it as satirical comedy, not preaching.
I was in stitches reading this piece.